The Doctor’s Companion Ep. 112 – Closing the Book

The Ponds are gone but Scott and Matt are far less than satisfied with how they left in the Matt Smith episode “The Angels Take Manhattan”.

The Weeping Angels are back, this time displacing their victims in 1938 New York. Can the Doctor help Amy and Rory from a slow aging fate? Why is River acting like a noir femme fatale? Why is everyone treating a detective novel like gospel? Find out in the newest episode of The Doctor’s Companion! And remember, BEWARE OF SPOILERS!!

Next: David Tennant and “42” (Plus “The Eleventh Hour”)!!

NOTE: This episode features a technical glitch on Matt’s side (the recording was set on the wrong microphone) so his quality is not up to par with most episodes. Sorry everyone! It’ll be fixed next episode!

10 thoughts on “The Doctor’s Companion Ep. 112 – Closing the Book

  1. Okay I agree with pretty much all of the criticisms you guys had with this episode. The funny thing about this season (and pretty much Moffat’s entire era so far) and the reason I can keep watching instead of dropping the show until a new showrunner takes over is that I always seem to enjoy the episodes while I’m watching them. Usually.( I pretty much hated Asylum of the Daleks. ) but thinking about the episode in anyway always ends up ruining the episodes for me. They don’t hold up to scrutiny at all! You guys are right that nothing about what happened to the Ponds makes any real sense! Maybe they are a fixed part of the 30’s (although I thought he’d sent them back to the ’50’s. If Amy and Rory are in their 30’s now and will die in their 80’s but honestly I’m not even sure what year it’s supposed to be for them. Did they get married in 2010? Is it 2020 for them?) I honestly can’t believe that the Ponds are supposed to be the most popular companions ever. I mean…seriously? I know that people seem to LOVE Amy but the most popular companions EVER? I would have no feelings towards Amy at all if Karen Gillan weren’t playing her! That being said they did manage to make me emotional during Amy’s last scene only because the actors were acting their little hearts out. It’s hard for me to see Matt Smith and Karen Gillan getting all weepy and not feel something about it.

    Overall though while I fully agree with all the complaints you guys have I didn’t walk away hating this episode and I think that goes back to the fact that it did entertain me while I was watching and I enjoyed the acting…but that’s about it. I find the idea of the doctor having two more companions he can never see again due to CIRCUMSTANCES to be completely lazy. It’s like Moffat can’t give his companions any sort of real credit. Them deciding to leave on their own or The God Complex ending where the Doctor leaves them behind because he’s afraid he’ll get them killed would have absolutely been the right ending but Moffat can’t seem to see anyone willingly leaving the Doctor behind and the Doctor just ends up looking like a selfish asshole because his inability to let go of the Ponds DID get both of them killed! Just like he knew it would! He’s supposed to be the oldest Doctor ever (and GOD that pisses me off. Ten only lived 4 years. 9 only got 1 year but you’re telling me 11 lasted 300 years without getting himself killed! Because he’s just that “awesome”?) how can he be so thoughtless and immature?

    • I pissed myself off typing this. See I can’t let myself think about any of this. I could totally sign off on the Moffat era if I just refuse to let myself think about anything in it. Ever.

      Rory deserved better damn it! And so did Amy! Karen Gillan’s a talented actress and she deserved to play a fully developed person not Moffat’s standard idea of a Strong! Female! Character!


  2. Even though I’m not as vehement as Scott about this episode, I also didn’t think it worked very well. All five of the 2012 episodes have very similar problems. It looks shiny on the surface, but nobody bothered to try and make anything make sense. They got too wrapped up in trying to be flashy or fancy and forgot to have things make sense.
    I think the Moffat era of Doctor Who has been a steady decline. The first Moffat year was pretty great overall. It made sense, there were a few problems, but it was an epic tale that made sense within each episode and for the season overall. The next season had more problems, but there were still several flashes of brilliance throughout the season. It didn’t hang together overall, but it still made a decent amount of sense.
    These 2012 episodes do not fit together. Each one is pretty much its own thing, and each one has enough problems to sap away a lot of the good stuff. These five episodes feel like they aren’t trying any more. They’re just throwing some ideas around without bothering to refine them. Some things have a bit of promise, but weren’t executed as well as they could have been. That’s the whole thing about Doctor Who in 2012: “Had promise that got squandered in the execution”.

  3. Hey Guys!
    This may not be the best place to post this (coudn’t find a link on your site to email!), but I’m a recent listener to your podcasts and in the past couple of months I’ve gone back and listened to everything that was available via iTunes. Gotta say that yours is easily the best Doctor Who podcast I’ve heard. I don’t always agree with your opinions (mostly I do, but not always 🙂 ), but you always make decent cases for your thoughts and are often pretty insightful. Good job guys!

    • That’s the best review/comment we can get. The people who don’t always disagree but listen anyways and have who have respect/decency about it. So thank you. =)

  4. I think river is meant to represent disorder. The embodiment of disorder or choas in his life. Him being married to her is the writers way of saying that wherever the doctor is there will be choas and when river is there you are reminded of it personally.

    I honestly feel like there will always a River Song on the show because of what she stands for.

    • Here’s my question, though. How was River a representation of chaos in this episode? What did she do that was overtly chaotic or disorderful?

      • Just as it has been pointed out that when the Doctor appears people seem to die, in this episode River appears and Rory and Amy die/are taken our of the Doctor’s life.

        Also, she wrote the book which conversely helped but also time-locked certain unpleasant events by being read.

        She was not able to get out of the Angel’s hang without breaking her wrist, and this was a way of dashing the Doctor’s hope that events could be changed after being “fixed.”

        River also encouraged Amy to go back in time to be with Rory, which is clearly not what the Doctor wanted.

        For the Doctor, these are all very negative things.

        The Doctor has many shadow-sides [the Dream Master, the Watcher, the Other, the Valeyard] and external alter-personalities [the Master, River], and then internal alter-personalities [all his various regenerations, etc.]

        I’m not sure that River represents chaos and disorder exactly — since the Doctor courts chaos already — but I think that Wc is onto something that she is a kind of alter-personality who in some ways brings out some of the best and worst in the Doctor. She represents the inevitable, perhaps, since the Doctor can’t seem to escape her, and she always seems to turn up when things get real bad for him. So, in an interesting turn, instead of fighting her off, rejecting her, trying to escape her, he courts her. She loves him but also has no illusions about him, and for the Doctor, that is perhaps the most frightening relationship he could possibly have…

  5. Scott, Dude…. In this episode you said River could’ve said “wait until your the guy in the hoodie…”
    Are you a fortune teller? Cuz man, Peter Capaldi wears a hoodie!

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