Part II Minute 16 – Feeling Old

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Marty demonstrates how to play an arcade game to two kids as Marty Junior enters the Cafe 80s and orders a drink.

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4 thoughts on “Part II Minute 16 – Feeling Old

  1. “Why make a Diner 80’s themed?” – Scott

    Pretty basic joke from Gale. The 70’s had BIG 50’s nostalgia – American Graffiti, Happy Days, Grease, Sha-Na-Na. The 80’s had a rise. This carried over to the 80s (BTTF being a big example, along with rockabilly hits from the Stray Cats and others), and the rise of 50’s diners began in the late 80’s. Here’s an article from the early 90’s about the trend:

    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-03-24/features/1991083164_1_classic-diners-tamberino-idols

    So, I assume Gale was aware of the trend and thought “If we’re nostalgic for the 50’s now, what would the people of 2015 be nostalgic for?” Obviously, the 80s would make sense as it is 30 years in the past, just about the 50s were 30 years from the 80s. And it allowed them to make winking jokes about the 80s to a late 80s audience.

    As for the checkerboard floor being 50’s style, not 80’s style – they wrote Doc a great line to get out of Cafe 80’s criticism, “It’s one of those nostalgia places, but not done very well.” From a real world filmmaker’s perspective, the floor along with the handles on the double doors serve a visual call back so the audience is reminded, “Yes, this IS the same location as Lou’s Diner in 1955.” Easy visual shorthand.

  2. In this episode you briefly referenced Marty taking a shower in terms of how much better he looked than his scruffy kid. Which got me thinking… when does Marty ever get a chance to bathe? We follow him continuously from when he arrives at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance in Part 1 until he’s knocked unconscious by Biff’s gang in front of the casino midway through Part 2. There is a LOT of sweating and grossness during that time—though admittedly he does take a dip in the Courthouse fountain. And unless his mom gave him a sponge bath, I’m not sure that he got a proper chance to freshen up until the very beginning of Part 3 back at Doc’s place. Gross, Marty. Gross.

  3. In the comics, I love how sharp Doc looks in George’s clothes. 😀

    The idea of kids who are around 9-10 years old playing games without having to use their hands is weird, because it’s like, “What the hell are you using to manipulate it? Your eye movements? Your arms? Your legs?”

    What’s especially interesting is that in the ’80s, I had older siblings that were introducing me to things, so I’m even more aware of things that were in the ’80s outside of stuff like My Little Pony and stuff. Like, we had Voltron on VHS tapes. 😀

    The interesting thing about the Tannens is that, yes, they’re all played by Tom F. Wilson, but at the same time, they really took the time to make them look completely different from each other. Griff and 1955!Biff look similar, but even then, they’re still different.

    Marty and Marty Jr. are especially interesting because there’s very little difference between them, and yet, they’re such different characters. MJF pitches his voice higher and nasally for Marty Jr., he’s got the brown contact lenses (which were startling the first time I noticed it), and even the way he holds himself is different. I loved it, even though the doubling was kind of annoying.

    Wow, the other scripts. O_O

    “Nuke the bab sesh” — I wonder if Gale thought that the lingo was going to completely change from normal English? Like you know how the “cool” language during the ’60s was like, “Fab”, “Far out”, “Groovy”, and the older generation were all confused by it? I mean, yeah, 2015 still had a bit of linguistic shifting, but it doesn’t seem to be as deliberately divorced from standard English? Then again, I could be too close to the linguistic shift myself to be able recognize how much it’s altered? I was thinking in terms of how easily people in different generations are able to figure out the meaning of the lingo in 2015.

    Whoooooooa, the idea of Tannens loaning money to Marty and his kid is a mindscrew. O_O I like the idea of Marty feeling desperate enough to get the almanac because I’ve been poor, and it was a nightmare. Because this is Marty from the original timeline, where his family were losers, Marty looks like they were either just barely getting by, or they were doing okay, but if something bad happened to anyone — George lost his job, Lorraine splurged on more liquor, one of the kids has to go to the hospital — and then they’re going to be struggling. If Marty finds that he can’t provide for his family, he might think he needs to make a lot of money very quickly instead of trying to improve the circumstances of what happens to him because he’s 17.

    Ahahahahahhahahaha, omg the girls.

    Oh, geez, one thing that Gale got distressingly right — the bullying feels like it’s right on track in terms of how brutal it is in 2015. The trouble with the McD’s scene with Norman is that it’s nearly a word-for-word replay of the scene in Part 1, especially since it was meant to be played by Crispin Glover. I’m really glad that the scene was changed a bit slightly, just to make it a bit different. The essential bullying elements are there, sure, but Griff being more openly violent is a major difference, probably because there’s no human proprietor at the Cafe ’80s.

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